http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/ Michigan hunting, michigan fishing, michigan trout fishing en Sat, 19 May 2012 23:21:04 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/images/misc/rss.jpg http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/ http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423085&goto=newpost Sat, 19 May 2012 23:12:31 GMT Heads up!!!! I launced out of the DNR Thunder Bay launch today. Got there and there were no pencils at the payment box. Usually, I have a pen or... Heads up!!!!

I launced out of the DNR Thunder Bay launch today. Got there and there were no pencils at the payment box. Usually, I have a pen or pencil in the truck, so it's generally no issue. Pretty common to find an DNR box with nothing to write with there. Well, today I had no pen or pencil in the truck. Since I drove 50 miles to fish, I put my money in the envelope, took the receipt tag, and went fishing. Came back to a ticket on my vehicle from the Alpena PD for failure to pay the launch fee, which is a violation of a local ordinance. BUT, I paid my fee. There was a notation on the bottom with an asterisk that noted "failure to fill out form"?????? NOWHERE does any sign say that you are required to fill it out, just to pay the money.

Luckily, I saw a police car driving around in the marina next door and hi-tailed it over to him to confront him about the ticket. Yep, that was the officer who wrote the ticket. He explained that there is a rash of people just putting the receipt portion on their dash without paying and they have no access to the DNR box to verify payment. I can see his point. BUT, it doesn't even matter if you fill it out. You can still put the filled out receipt on your dash without dropping a payment in the box. After I told him I took pictures of all the signs and the payment station with no writing instruments, he took my info and said he would verify payment with the DNR and void the ticket if payment was verified. Excuse my language, but what is this bull-bleep? You just ASSUME payment wasn't made with no way of verifying, then expect the person to go to court to prove themselves innocent? I'm sorry, but our country and court system doesn't work that way!!!!!!!!!!!!! Innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent. If I wouldn't have found that officer, I would have had to take a day to go to court, show my pictures, plead my case, and hope for a judge that isn't crooked. Nice system there!!! ]]> Cold Water Species Fishing B.Chunks http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423085 http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423084&goto=newpost Sat, 19 May 2012 23:11:44 GMT My Mother has been battling leukemia (AML) since December. She had to undergo a 2nd bone marrow transplant last Tuesday and by Tuesday night was in... My Mother has been battling leukemia (AML) since December. She had to undergo a 2nd bone marrow transplant last Tuesday and by Tuesday night was in septic shock due to a bacterial infection. She has been in the MICU of DMC since. The infection did a real number and with no immune system at the moment it's been a rocky week. She is in acute renal (kidney) failure and they are going to insert the dialysis catheter in an hour or so. Her chances of coming out of this are very slim.

The hope is that the dialysis will be able to take care of what her kidneys and liver are failing to do and allow us time to see if her new marrow will graph and the staph infection can be resolved.

She is currently on a respirator and is more or less out of it due to everything going on in her body.

She's only 64... We lost my father to Kindney Cancer 2 years ago tomorrow.

May isn't turning into one of my favorite months.

We pray that by the grace of god she can be one of the statistical out layers and beat the odds... Every prayer helps. ]]> Sportsmen of Faith Rootsy http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423084 http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423083&goto=newpost Sat, 19 May 2012 23:07:17 GMT I realize this is an Alpena police dept issue, but I want to get the take of it from the DNR, who actually collect the fees. I launced out of... I realize this is an Alpena police dept issue, but I want to get the take of it from the DNR, who actually collect the fees.

I launced out of the DNR Thunder Bay launch today. Got there and there were no pencils at the payment box. Usually, I have a pen or pencil in the truck, so it's generally no issue. Pretty common to find an DNR box with nothing to write with there. Well, today I had no pen or pencil in the truck. Since I drove 50 miles to fish, I put my money in the envelope, took the receipt tag, put it on the dash, and went fishing. Came back to a ticket on my vehicle from the Alpena PD for failure to pay the launch fee, which is a violation of a local ordinance. BUT, I paid my fee. There was a notation on the bottom with an asterisk that noted "failure to fill out form"?????? :confused: :confused: :confused: NOWHERE does any sign say that you are required to fill it out, just to pay the money.

Luckily, I saw a police car driving around in the marina next door and hi-tailed it over to him to confront him about the ticket. Yep, that was the officer who wrote the ticket. He explained that there is a rash of people just putting the receipt portion on their dash without paying and they have no access to the DNR box to verify payment. I can see his point. BUT, it doesn't even matter if you fill it out. You can still put the filled out receipt on your dash without dropping a payment in the box. :confused: After I told him I took pictures of all the signs and the payment station with no writing instruments, he took my info and said he would verify payment with the DNR and void the ticket if payment was verified. Excuse my language, but what is this bull-bleep? You just ASSUME payment wasn't made with no way of verifying, then expect the person to go to court to prove themselves innocent? :confused: I'm sorry, but our country and court system doesn't work that way!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: Innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent. If I wouldn't have found that officer, I would have had to take a day to go to court, show my pictures, plead my case, and hope for a judge that isn't crooked. Nice system there!!! :rolleyes:

Soooooooo, what is the actual DNR requirement and officers stance for paying the launch fee? Does any statute state the form MUST be filled out? All of it? Or what? Generally, I just put my vehicle plate number and the time I launch(for safety reasons). Am I a habitual offender?

Shouldn't this be more of a DNR issue where a DNR officer issues the ticket or refers it to Alpena, rather than Alpena taking the presumption of guilt?

If Alpena really wants, I'll take my money I spend in town there up to Rogers city! ]]> Questions about MI Hunting/Fishing Law B.Chunks http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423083 http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423081&goto=newpost Sat, 19 May 2012 22:47:46 GMT Not sure of the difference. Looking at a graduation gift, kid likes coins. If you were to buy a set of coins would you get the proof or mint set? ... Not sure of the difference. Looking at a graduation gift, kid likes coins. If you were to buy a set of coins would you get the proof or mint set?
Any chance you would could explain the difference.
Thanks
Matt ]]> Sound Off (MichiganForums.com) muskrat http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423081 http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423080&goto=newpost Sat, 19 May 2012 22:25:13 GMT How's the bite in muskegan lake?

Outdoor Hub mobile, the outdoor information engine ]]> Big Lake Cold Water Fishing Reports bsteelie99 http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423080 http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423077&goto=newpost Sat, 19 May 2012 22:08:09 GMT I'm going to be casting to smallie beds with a small split shot and leach. I have never used a baitcaster but was thinking of purchasing one. Will a baitcaster work with a light bait like a leach? With the exception of a cheap spinning real everything I have anymore is for trolling.

Outdoor Hub mobile, the outdoor information engine ]]> Tackle Talk CHASINEYES http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423077 http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423073&goto=newpost Sat, 19 May 2012 21:54:32 GMT Does anyone know the name of the busness that has a luaunch in the river at Port Austin, Or a number would be good also. Thanks Steve Does anyone know the name of the busness that has a luaunch in the river at Port Austin, Or a number would be good also.


Thanks Steve ]]> Cold Water Species Fishing sjk984 http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423073 http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423071&goto=newpost Sat, 19 May 2012 21:33:21 GMT setup in 40 fow after marking bait just outside the arms..trolled that area with only 1 hit and set out for deeper water..trolled nw to the... setup in 40 fow after marking bait just outside the arms..trolled that area with only 1 hit and set out for deeper water..trolled nw to the 18s..ended 12 for 14 best water was 130-140..had a few hits on chrome style spinnies but spoon bite outshined by far this trip..seemed we ended up with a much better spoon bite over fly bite in holland last week also..
what worked
rigger 70 dn with grn stripe paddle with pickle sunshine streak fly(been good all year)
5 color with mag silver streak lemonberry
7 color with reg ss green muffin
150 32#copper with mag ss miami dolphin
200 32#copper with reg ss blue mango
250 32#copper with reg ss kato
200 32#copper with mag panty ho
wire 100 back with mix veggie spinnie and big weenie maniac glow fly
wire 150 back with fat nancy spinnie and black and silver streak fly ]]> Big Lake Cold Water Fishing Reports fishsniffer http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423071 http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423067&goto=newpost Sat, 19 May 2012 20:51:24 GMT I would like to get up and do some fly fishing on the Yellow Dog R.. It might be a good time before they start doing much mining in the area. Looks... I would like to get up and do some fly fishing on the Yellow Dog R.. It might be a good time before they start doing much mining in the area. Looks as though access might be via roads. Anyone willing to share some general information? ]]> Upper Peninsula Michigan Streams and Rivers Stinger4me http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423067 http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423065&goto=newpost Sat, 19 May 2012 20:48:48 GMT Would anyone be kind enough to either give me a call 248 670 7323 or shoot me a p.m with some info on this area? I'm heading up to port hope memorial weekend and wouldn't mind getting into a few lakers or steelies. Unfortunately I don't have riggers on my 620. Is there a way to get them without riggers in shallower water? I am a Walleye, small mouth guy, totally clueless when it comes to cold water trout/salmon so you don't have to worry about me taking any 20 fish bags. Just something to try. Any info is greatly appreciated and if you get down state at all I always know where the eyes and smallies are. If you would be so kind to help a newbie out or want to get out for a ride with me on my boat at all next weekend, i'm willing to trade a trip for some knowledge.



Outdoor Hub mobile, the outdoor information engine ]]> Big Lake Cold Water Fishing Reports ---FISHON--- http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423065 http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423064&goto=newpost Sat, 19 May 2012 20:47:35 GMT Made a solo trip out of Whitehall & went 6 for 8 on kings this morning.

Set lines at 5:30 on a NNW troll in 100 FOW & began the morning with a nice 14lb king at 5:45 that hit a standard sized Moonshine bullseye spoon on a SWR 45' down over 125FOW.

2nd king arrived at 6:00 on a magnum sized Moonshine flounder pounder on a rigger 65' down in 120 FOW.

3rd king was boxed at 6:15 again on the rigger with the magnum Moonshine flounder pounder 65 down/120 FOW.

4th fish was a jack that deeply inhaled a standard sized Moonshine flounder pounder off a free slider rig in 120FOW that couldn't be relesased.

Released a jack that hit mag Moonshine bloody nose on a 2 color with a 2 oz snap weight from an inline board in 125 FOW.

Last fish was a 6lb king at 9:00 that hit mag blue dolphin on a SWR 55 down in 130 FOW.

First 3 fish all decided to run into the diver rod making the fight a bit more interesting.

50 degree surface temp & 44 degrees 65' down in 115-130 FOW.

All 5 fish were females & the 4 larger fish all had a couple of 3"-4" bait in their bellies.

]]> Big Lake Cold Water Fishing Reports syonker http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423064 http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423057&goto=newpost Sat, 19 May 2012 19:22:51 GMT Took the Ultra to the bay this morning. 12 walleye, smallie and sheeps. Great morning out there. Here is the report ...... Took the Ultra to the bay this morning. 12 walleye, smallie and sheeps. Great morning out there. Here is the report ... http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/fo...d.php?t=423056 ]]> Kayaking, Kayak Fishing, Canoeing, Canoe Racing beer and nuts http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423057 http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423055&goto=newpost Sat, 19 May 2012 18:45:40 GMT 2 year old on top vs 3+ year olds on bottom, 3/4" spurs vs 1 3/8" spurs, but same beard length

]]> MichiganTurkey.com TSS Caddis http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423055 http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423054&goto=newpost Sat, 19 May 2012 18:44:15 GMT The fishing is on fire over here in Winthrop harbor where I'm working. I went our after work Thursday for an hour to see if the perch had shown up yet in Waukegan out in lake Michigan. A bud and I landed 14 jumbos. I caught 8 with one touching the rule at 14 1/4" and another at 13 3/4". He fished perch Friday and today limiting out both days with two man limits (30 fish) each day.



I went after salmon on my boat Friday and Saterday mornings and went 35 for 47 with 12 Kings and 23 Coho's. Kings up to 16 lbs and Coho up to 3 LBS. Rigger's, dipsy's, and 1/2 cores all worked. Spoons and paddles and flies were the ticket. Goog Fishin!

]]> Big Lake Cold Water Fishing Reports Big Shooter http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423054 http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423053&goto=newpost Sat, 19 May 2012 18:31:20 GMT I've been using a small charcoal grill for a couple years but a friend just gave me an old gas grill that has been sitting out in the woods for a few years. It's in good shape and was an expensive grill in its' day. The entire bottom was a mouse nest and it was nasty to say the least. I've cleaned it out but I'm not sure it's safe to use. Is there some way to disinfect it? ]]> Sound Off (MichiganForums.com) Justin http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423053